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this wall. >> i can hear you. >> the time for change has come! chris: is nothing sacred? if there's no big deal on the national debt, with the 2012 republican challenger run on empty? can he or she carry the burden of rejecting big deficit reduction? what about obama, if there's no debt deal, will he have to defend the liberal label next year? the knives are out. should john boehner expect a full-blown mutiny. is eric cantor the number two house republican leading the tea party against their own speaker? finally, family business. michele bachmann's number one in iowa but her family business about become her number one problem. it works to confer gays to straights. will that strike voters as sensible? will it sell on the stump, even among conservatives? hi, i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. with us today, "new york" magazine john heilemann, cnn's gloria borger, nbc's kelly o'donnell and "time" magazine's joe klein. first up, narrative has been about trying for a big debt reduction deal this year but the political consequences for barack obama and g.o.p. nominee next year are the real
, requires some reforms to be strengthened. we are in big disagreement as to how to do it. >> that is an understatement. democrat favor tax hike within social security and medicare as well as increasing income taxes. budget committee chairman paul ryan argues part of the problem in medicare is the new healthcare law. which claims savings will materialize, and the chief actuary of medicare has the same concerns. >> there is a lot of evidence to suggest some of the payment provisions will not be sustainablsustainable in the lo. >> it pays providers including doctors lower and lower rates. foster says over time it will leave 40% of all providers in the red raising questions about whether they'll treat medicare patients. >> if at some point our payment rate to providers become less or significantly less to the cost of providing services, they either will be unwilling, or unable to continue providing services. >> last year, 51% of medicare's cost was taken out of the general revenue; meaning, half the cost of medicare was paid by borrowing money. which is why it's part of the d
's analysis. labor big boss says the election season features sometimes a delusional president. if you think our president has problems check out his counterpart in iran. live from the studio in washington, this is "special report." good evening. i'm bret baier. we begin with washington's version of the irresistible force versus the unmovable object. president obama today said there will be no agreement on the debt ceiling if republicans don't budge on taxes. house speaker john boehner responded by saying that the house cannot pass a tax increase. the two sides met for another round of negotiations. white house correspondent mike emanuel has the latest. plus word of something that was apparently on the table for a while. >> trying to reach a grand debt deal, the sources say president obama offered to raise the medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67. there was also discussion of moving to actuarial tables deciding age eligibility rather than congress setting it. sources say there was no agreement because it was part of a package deal that mr. obama insisted also include increased tax revenues
is we have a unique opportunity to do something big. we have a chance to stabilize america's finances for a decade, for 15 years or 20 years. if we're willing to seize the moment. what that would require would be some shared sacrifice and a balanced approach that says we're going to make significant cuts in domestic spending. and i have already said i'm willing to take down domestic spending to the lowest percentage of our overall economy since dwight eisenhower. it also requires cuts in defense spending. and i've said that in addition to the $400 billion that we've already cut from defense spending we're willing to look for hundreds of billions more. it would require us taking on health care spending. and that includes looking at medicare and finding ways that we can stabilize the system so that it is available not just for this generation but for future generations. and it would require revenues. it would require, even as we're asking the person who needs a student loan or the senior citizen or, you know, people -- veterans who are trying to get by on a disability check, even as we'
in it that's pretty -- it's sort of outlined but not detailed in legislation and has a big, big dollar figure around it. so, sort of the big plan. passing that along with a debt ceiling as sort of a big theory option instead of this mcconnell/reid plan, but it's so vague, as you can tell, and nothing that i have as any sort of firm plan, just, like, something that's sort of out there in the ether, they just don't have a plan at this point, no one does, john. >> it sounds like, and some people at home are saying, my god, there they go into washington speak again. i'll try to simply phi it. they are trying to fit certain pieces together to get you to several trillion in deficit reduction and that seems to be where we are, a bunch ideas. i'll go over to the wall a little bit, because jess talks about the mcconnell plan, that would give the president the authority to raise the debt ceiling and maybe they would come up with a commission with spending cuts. that's one backup plan. another backup plan is the gang of six. and i want to bring up the gang of six yesterday we talked about that. they hav
people. we are not showing this to you for the sake of it. who do you know who making a big difference in your community? you can nominate these heroes and they end up winning. >> making a huge difference in their communities. a good thing to see. we want to wish everybody a wonderful fourth of july weekend. hope you're safe, healthy, happy and you have a little bit of fun. >> you're off? >> i'm off watching the fireworks. >> christine and i will be here on monday. have a fantastic weekend. kyra phillips takes it over now with the "cnn newsroom." >> how about a lot of fun? come on! >> some people have to work so i felt bad! >> happy fourth of july, guys. we all will be celebrating. it's 9:00 a.m. on the east coast and 6:00 a.m. on the west coast. thank you for joining us. >>> witnesses taking the stand in the casey anthony murder trial. the judge says the case could go to the jury this weekend. >>> los alamos national lab closed fifth day as high winds make problems for fire crews. 94,000 acres have burned. lab officials say toxic materials are saving. >>> royal couple wakes
proceeding all through making headlines for wrong reasons but making big headlines nonetheless. >> we are following awe tlel' more on the nfl next week. mark, thanks. >>> the numbers are out. not the poll numbers and not the dow industrial. we are talking about the big number of bucks your presidential candidates are raising to win the white house. jim acosta, who has got the biggest bank? >> reporter: sometimes he's are the numbers that count, kyra, this morning. it looks like at this point, the person who has got the biggest bank right now is mitt romney. we haven't gotten any official totals in right now. yesterday his campaign did confirm that he is expected to bring in between $15 million and $20 million in the first quarter of fund-raising this year. not as much as he raised for the 2008 campaign but, still, way ahead of the rest of the pack. jon huntsman, we can mention, he also has a pretty big fund-raising hall for a guy that not a lot of people know about. $4 million. we should mention half of that, though, is money he kicked in himself. he is part of a very wealthy family t
seal a budget deal? it doesn't sound like. they did have a big win tuesday with cut, cap and balance. still no debt deal on the table. the clock seems to be ticking very fast. our next guest is pointing the finger at president obama, calling the president clever and slick. what does he mean? we asked karl rove. nice to see you. >> great to see you. >> greta: in add's "wall street journal", you described the president's press conference a week ago you said it was a b -- buff foe performance. i telecommunication a tough of sarcasm, tell me what you mean? >> i mean ironic. it is not sarcastic, i'm being ironic. the president gave an outstanding theatrical performance. he started off by blaming others. we expected them to blame bush. he also blamed the democratic congress. saying they had runaway with the credit card. they were just doing what he was telling them to do. he insisted that others solve the problem. he said within 24 to 46 hours i demand congress give me a plan. he said the worst alternative to come out of this would be if we raise the debt ceiling without taking any steps t
14% in taxes and corporations pay 0%, and you raise more, you can have us a big deal here. >> they're still drawing lines in the sand that seem insurmountable with weeks to go before the august 2 deadline, congressional leaders are heading back to the white house today for yet another meeting to reach a deal on raising the country's debt ceiling. officials familiar with the negotiations say majority leader eric cantor dominated yesterday's meeting. cantor laid out what was agreed upon in the deficit reduction talks led by vice president biden, specifically $2 trillion in cuts in the next decade. the figure includes $1 trillion in discretionary spending. $200 billion in medicare and medicaid. and $200 billion to $300 billion on saved interest in the debt. >> so the military -- the military, i guess, comes in in the mandatory discretionary spending. >> military. >> sources familiar with the talks add that after the presentation president obama said the two sides might be able to reach consensus on roughly $1 pp 7 trillion. but there are still some issues to resolve. at one point in t
crisis at a time when she is surging in the polls ahead one of the big favorites sarah palin. jonathan karl is in washington and has more on all this. good morning, jon. >> reporter: good morning, robin. there is no presidential candidate with more momentum right now than michele bachmann. ♪ my home in -- >> reporter: no republican presidential candidate has taken a harder line on the debt ceiling showdown than michele bachmann. >> we were all shocked and appalled that president obama dangled out in front of the cameras that senior citizens may not get their checks. that's a very dangerous statement to make. we don't believe -- excuse me. excuse me. we don't believe that for a moment. >> reporter: tough talk from bachmann is nothing new but she now speaks with new-found authority as a top tier contender for the republican presidential nomination. a new national poll puts bachmann firmly in second place as the leading challenger to front-runner mitt romney. and in key first caucus state iowa, three separate polls over the past week put bachmann in first place. >> republican primary vo
republicans. that would offer a big challenge to mitt romney. >> keith, why is at this moment rick perry holding out? >> i wish i could tell you what's going on inside rick perry's head. i think he's probably deciding if he's a legitimate candidate. if he can win the gop nomination. i think he is threatened by michele bachmann. i think she's sort of obviously protects the same type of people that are part of her base, part of his base. there's the question of electablity. if he wins the gop nomination, could he win the presidency? could he beat obama obama? i'm not convinced he could. >> what do you think, john, who would be the builtest threat to barack obama of three? >> i think romney would be the biggest threat. i think perry would come in second and i think that bachmann could would come in third. mitt romney has the organization out there. he has a compelling story when it comes to turn around artists. he turned around the olympics. he turned and massachusetts and turned around -- i think people want a turn around artist. perry has a story to tell about what he's done in texas as f
to raise the debt ceiling. everybody fr everyone agrees. this is big for the republicans. never done before with a long-term budget plan to bring down the deficit. now everybody agrees also there has to be a balanced approach. they agree to $1.6 trillion in cuts and what the president is saying is there's $400 billion in tax subsidies. tax give ways, as al you mentioned, tot hedge fund managers, that we can no longer afford. now if republicans don't buy that, as david brooks said nothing in the new york times, they are idiots. they don't know how to govern. they won. they ought to take this deal. >> mr. brooks, conservative columnists, is saying come on. you are marginalizing yourself. can't even you even hear from your own people that ideal logically agreed with the republican line. >> well, look, reverend sharpton, you showed some polls a minute ago that showed 70 or 8 30ers don't agree with republican owns this or that or the other thing. if the republicans are standing up for their convictions and beliefs against the tide of public opinion, it may be political courage an political decis
ceiling, 55% of moderates say raise it. bob, we have two big news stories facing us. the unemployment rate going up to 9.2%. the united states facing a debt crisis. maybe not reaching the debt ceiling bill by the end of this month. the republicans are using the jobless figures to say no taxes whatsoever. they're also saying no deal. have they misread the american public? >> this is a moment when obama has to deliver. there's no question. on the economic front, if there is a default, we face a catastrophe. the talk -- one of the plans being discussed, which is the c.e.o. told me being discussed in the white house is they got that. i mean, the theme is postponement. the republicans in a sense are right. you can't raise taxes when the economy is so slow. the democrats are right. you can't cut spending when the economy is in this condition. so what do you do? postpone. what they say is, instead of a 12-year plan, maybe even a 15-year plan, and the key word here -- you'll love this -- feathering in. you feather in the pain so there actually are no real cuts, no revenue enhancements, as they cal
the debt ceiling to go up and take cuts to the big three off the table. mcconnell late today put out his last chance plan. >> i would advocate that we pass legislation giving the president the authority, the authority to request of us an increase in the debt ceiling that would take us past the end of his term. that is what he has said. he said he will not sign a debt ceiling that does not take us past the end of his term. >> so mcconnell's plan would allow republicans to vote against the debt increase, but it would allow the president to increase the debt. the downside for the righties? cuts to the big three would be off the table. that's been their mission all along. the tea party jumped all over mcconnell, right wing blogger eric rashgson said mitch mcconnell is making a historic capitulation. consider sending mcconnell a weasel. john boehner is on board with the senate leader mcconnell. he ran over to fox news and did major cya. >> i think everybody believe there is needs to be a backup plan if we cannot come to an agreement, and i think mitch has done good work. >> backup plan? at th
of the need for a course correction. but weeks of negotiations have shown his commitment to big government is simply too great to lead to the kind of long-term reforms we need. >> reporter: reid says lawmakers must find a solution. >> we'll stay in session every day, saturday and sunday until congress passes legislation to prevent the united states from defaulting on negotiation. >> reporter: in chicago, key ally expressed support for the mcconnell-reid plan. >> more work to be done. joint committee can tackle it but it's responsible way out of the crisis. >> reporter: lindsey graham favors constitutional amendment but there isn't enough support in the senate. >> we have the people behind us. 72% of the american people want balanced budget. >> reporter: the president called for shared sacrifice. >> i am still pushing for to us achieve a big deal. but what i said to the group is if we can't do the biggest deal possible, then let's still be ambitious. let's still try to at least get a down payment on deficit reduction. >> reporter: but the cochair of the president's own deficit commission ha
says she manages the migraine with medication and is otherwise healthy. with all of that said, big news out of texas today, the gor rick perry who said he recently feels a calling to national politics has now gotten green light from key constituent, his wife. >> as my wife was talking to me and says get out of your comfort zone. yeah, being governor of texas is a great job. but sometimes you are called to step in to the fray. >> reporter: no word on a timetable yet. unclear whether perry will participate in the straw poll. his aides here tried to respect event facilities and were told they missed the deadline now they're pulling back resources. perhaps he won't participate the straw poll but there is a chance he could be on the debate stage a few days beforehand. >> bret: a lot of flirting he going on. thank you. we'll talk about it in the panel. the man charged with the 2009 fort hood shooting rampage major nidal hasan was arraigned today and faces 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder. the prosecution is seeking the death penalty. we'll show y
, but if a shrunken version of the boehner big does -- or if they go to an emergency extension, the president will be right back in the same predicament he's in right now. i think a lot of people are upset. they blame the republicans more than the democrats for the gamesmanship, but the fact is the republicans have also backed the president into a corner, even if they're doing it in a way that's not popular. >> i want you to analyze they two possibilities, one the president could give away more of the store, more spending cuts, maybe enough to get us thus this increase. which would make the redhots happy. no tax increase at all. the other possibility is to marry what boehner wants right now with what mcconned was talking about next year, where next year it can be are can be raised by the president, only the house would have to come back with a two thirds veto, so it seems there is a possibility for compromise, but the easiest thing is for the president to throw the whole bomb game, say, you win this year, not next year. >> i don't think he can do thatç chris. when you get to a number that bi
that would have included up to a trillion dollars in new revenue. it seems like the republicans talk a big game about solving the nation's problem. but they are really only interested in one thing, that's winning back the white house. mitch mcconnell said this on fox news. >> the most important thing we want to achieve is for president obama to be a one-term president. >> that is true. that's my single most important political goal along with every active republican in the country. >> joining me now, is the independent senator from vermont, senator bernie sanders. senator, thank you for being here tonight. how do you explain the republicans unwillingness to compromise to get the big deal that they said they wanted, to put everything on the table. the president said fine now they back down. >> what they said is they would like everything on the table. so long as it means cuts to social security, medicare, medicaid, the needs of our children, and the environment. all of that is on the table. but if you asked billion airs it start paying a little bit more in taxes or if you do away with loop
very big, very substantial to bring our long-term deficits down over time. we have to do that in a way that's good for the economy for more support because the economy is healing from the recession. it's going to require both sides to compromise. president's bringing leaders together again at the white house this evening to try to figure out how to move forward. >> what's he actually saying? because you're hearing boehner saying they're demanding tax increases, we're not going to do that. they've also said you were pedalling a bid on whether to cut entitlement programs like medicare or social security. what's the fact? >> that latter thing is not true. the president is standing tough. he is willing to do very, very difficult things. >> like what? on medicare? >> like getting substantial savings from the budget, across the budget. defense, the rest of government, even medicare/medicaid over the long term, there are things we can do responsibly to save money in those programs and we have to do that to bring the deficits under control. but to do that, we have to have some shared sacrifice
have a big jump in revenue. obama has been saying let's thai the bush tax cuts are going to lapse and we are going to extend the ones for the middle class. republicans are afraid to let him do that up front. it would kill momentum for a tax reform. >> but, but, but why just get rid of the bush tax cuts. if they are so awful, why not get rid of all of them. get rid of all of them for everybody. if tax cuts are the worst thing ever, the bush tax cuts, get rid of the bush tax cuts for everybody and raise billions in revenue. >> right. i think we could probably figure it out sitting around the table. i don't think it's that difficult. they are locked in in political terms. it's a much different issue to them. you can make rational compromises and deals here. the problem is, how do they do it. what's happening is they are at the point where they realize the consequences. at some point, they realize they have to do something other than hold the ground saying this is it. we're not going to change anything. we are at that point and we have little time to work with. >> howard dean, look wh
other big stories we've got going on today, one of them being casey anthony will walk out of jail a free woman in six days. now, you hear that, and think back to 48 hours ago. it was at this time tuesday that casey anthony was facing the possibility of life in prison, maybe even facing the death penalty. what a difference 48 hours makes, because today she is counting the days until she walks out of the jail a free woman. she is counting down to six. you know by now, casey anthony was acquitted of murdering her 2-year-old daughter caylee, but convicted on four counts of lying to investigators. just before sentencing, the deceives tried and failed to reduce down to one. here are the four counts. lying about working at university studios, liking about caylee being with a nanny, the fick tick zanny you heard solve about. and lying about speaking to caylee on the phone. this morning, the judge melvin perry gave her the maximum to each of those counts. >> i will sentence you to one year in the orange county jail, xwokting a $1,000 fine on each count all four counts to run consecutive to each o
tough choices for a big budget deal. today he said without a deal there may not be enough money to send out social security checks. for many republicans in congress, opposing tax has become more than ideology. it's become religion. they're abdicating now their responsibility to co-govern. how are we ever going to get a deal if republican leaders more afraid of the tea party than they are of the economic collapse to come? >>> also, pray away the gay. michele bachmann's husband says the christian counseling practice he runs does not try to pray gay straight, but the video tells a different story. this may make michele bachmann more popular with her base, but what after everyone else? >>> plus, the murdoch scandal keeps getting bigger and bigger. gordon brown told the bbc that murdoch people used known criminals to get access to his personal information and try to bring down his government. the story has now hit the "sunday times" of london and his company stock is sinking. how bad will this get? jon stewart and british ex-pass had fun, a lot of fun, actually, with the murdoch story. that'
? >> they are being called to testify in parliament. the big story today is that the political parties are all going to get together, go to parliament and they're all agreed to support a motion that rupert murdoch, his bid to acquire bskyb, the cable operator here, should not go through. that is really rare, ali. it's not legally binding. who knows if he'll care or take notice. the other big story making news here is that the senate commerce committee chairman jay rockefeller is calling for an investigation saying, look, if "news of the world" was hacking u.s. citizens and 9/11 victims. he says this should be taken seriously and there should be an investigation. the big topic on that is how much is it going to affect rupert murdoch's empire in the u.s. as well? >> costing a lot of money in the stock. cost the stock about 14%, more than $7 billion since this really thickened about a week ago. let's talk about this former survivor producer facing expedition to mexico on a charge he murdered his wife. >> right. a judge basically said there was enough evidence to send him back to mexico to face trial, r
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to figure out whether or not we are still a country that can think this big. we have to come up with a sensible way to finance healthcare, and the delivery 6 healthcare. there isn't anything we can't afford if we prioritize it. >> i think that one of the things we will see in the 2012 presidential election is whether a republican stands up says, i disagree with obama on taxes, and foreign policy, but he is as much of an american as i am. they won't say that move on to the issues. >> with immigration, you can only fear the future if you don't know our past. if you know how this country was built on immigration, you will understand immigration is an invaluable energy infusion into this country. it always has been. it changes the definition of who we are. >> good evening, americans, welcome "the ed show." the president is playing a dangerous game of chicken with this country's safety net. drew a line on taxes, i will have to draw a line on the big three tonight. don't offer the cuts on medicaid, social security, the american people since american people have spoken. the president s
a heart felt statement during the u.k. phone hacking scandal. his appearance with his son james was big news there and big news here. how else did the media react and what else have we learned about the scandal. >> republicans have laid out a responsible and detailed path forward, and the house has passed it. >> jon: the house passes a plan to fix the debt crisis, but the media condemn the effort. >> do we really have time for a plan that is really just show? >> and the great debt debate goes on with more distortion from the liberal press? >> there he's saying brinksmanship, trickery around the time of a deadline just to get your way is sort of economic terrorism. >> has the negative media coverage hurt the effort. >> g.o.p. presidential candidate michele bachmann goes on the defensive after a negative story about her health and ability. did that story fail the journalistic ethics test? >> having fired the imagination of a generation, a ship like no other, its place in history secured, the space shuttle pulls into port for the last time. >> and an end to an era, with no clear future for
>>> the big divide. congressional leaders return to the negotiating table in a few hours trying to hammer out a deal. the two sides farther apart than they've ever been. the question is, if not now, when will a deal happen? >>> the extreme heat is the number one killer in the u.s. claiming more lives than tornados, floods, even hurricanes. how bad things are getting across the country right now. >>> praying gay away. the secret videotape involving presidential candidate michele bachmann and her husband's clinic. does their business claim to have a cure for homosexuality? calling rupert murdoch, the media magnate and his son have been called before parliament to explain the phone-tapping scandal that could bring them down. >>> i'm thomas roberts. we get to president obama preparing for another round of debt talks with congressional leaders as the clock continues to tick. speaker boehner reenforced his party's message and put pressure on the president this morning. take a listen. >> this debt limit increase is his problem. i think it's time for him to lead by putting his plan on t
of the economy. does that mean we're going to have to push the big changes to deal with the debt and the debt are going to have to go down the road a bit and to the long-term maybe more than ten years? >> well, chris, i don't know about more than ten years. certainly as you know in simpson/bowles, senator simpson and former chief of staff erskine bowles, in their report they posited that we needed to and they proposed making substantial cuts, raising revenues and dealing across the board with all items of expenditure. they said in the near term, meaning the next year or so we need to be very careful that we did not have the opposite effect by dampening down the struggling economy obviously as we saw today which will decrease revenues and make the problem so in the short term i agree with the bowles/simpson suggestion that we be very careful in the short-term. there is no doubt, however, that in the white house yesterday or thursday there was -- that was yesterday, there was a clear agreement that this was a serious, serious challenge that confronted us. and it demanded that all of us try to c
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>>> good day. i'm in for con tesz ya brewer. we're covering the big news from coast to coast. the hot topic is just that. we're talking about the sorching summer heat. >> beautiful weather out there if you love heat and humidity. today will be the hottest and most humid day of the summer. >> today? >> look at the numbers. right up into the triple digits. >> dallas has been baking in 100 degree temperatures for ten straight days. >> horrible. horrible. >> near hudson, texas, it's not the heat or the humidity, that's the drought. >> oouf never seen it like this. >> across the south temperatures are soaring and water levels are sinning. it's so bad a south georgia man is sharing the water from his pool. >> we're carrying buckets of water back and forth to the neighbors. >> in the midwest oppressive heat claimed one life. a man found dead inside his mobile home on sunday, the air conditioner wasn't working. >> this is oppressive and dangerous heat affecting more than 20 states and more than 90 million people. >> there are heat advisories or warnings in 24 of the 48 lower states.
the heat from the right. he still wants the big deal that would include perhaps cuts in medicare, medicaid and even social security, and with them tax increases. john boehner responded quickly. no to any tax increases, period. well, my question tonight, do republicans want to deal with really tanking the economy to say no to taxes? the face of the deadlock. the president said both sides have people who refuse to compromise. tonight one from each camp. democrat and tea party republican. i'll ask them what price they'll will be to see the country pay so they can stick to their positions. >>> also, not so excellent adventure. both michele bachmann and rick santorum signed a so-called marriage vow from a conservative group that suggested african-americans had a better family life under slavery. who writes this stuff? and worse yet who would sign on to such stuff? by the way, bachmann leads the pack in a new iowa poll, and a scandal keeps getting bigger. a report the tabloid targeted former prime minister gordon brown's voicemail and bank account. how far will this scandal go? and let me finish
matthews down in washington. leading off tonight, too big to fail? here are the two things to take away from mitch mcconnell's offer. one we are no longer looking at democrats versus republicans or liberals versus conservatives. this is a fight between the leaders and protesters, people who are responsible for america's financial health and those who never have to worry about an election. second, money talks, b.s. walks. when major financial groups told the gop that default was not an option, they suddenly saw the light. as phil graham once said -- -- we learned that many on the right only pretend to care about the debt. what they care about is shrinking government and lowering taxes. tonight we're going to put a spot light on the unsupported republican claim that somewhat higher taxes for the better off means fewer jobs for everyone. also, the rupert murdoch scandal has claimed another victim. murdoch has dropped his bid to buy british sky broadcasting tonight. will it threaten his holdings here in the states? >>> the latest poll on republicans may show that mitt romney is in more trou
, you know, the list kind of goes on. child care being a big one. child care services, you know, a lot of people are saying -- i spoke to a few with women who said, i may have to put all of my work check into child care now because these state services aren't here. people are going to be feeling this. and it's very early -- iyou kno, this happened yesterday. i think we will really feel the impact of how hard a lot of people are going to be hit in a few days, when people really realize, after the holiday weekend, people start to realize, oh, geez, my government's not working, i'm not going to get these services after all. and you also mentioned over 20,000 state employees aren't going to be having -- they don't have a job. friday, they were let go, they were told not to come back indefinitely. they will get their jobs back, but this could last days, weeks, we really have no idea. we spoke to one of these employees who had lost their job yesterday. >> a sad commentary on politics. it's turned into a sport rather than working to solve a problem. >> that's the way a lot of people are feeli
to put things in perspective, the federal government's twice as big as it was ten years ago. right now. twice as big. so everybody out there that's having to live within a budget, making the hard choices in our economy today, know that if you've grown something twice in ten years, you obviously can make some significant cuts in it without having any negative effect. >> senator coburn, let's talk about your role in the gang of six. is it correct, i mean, you bolted from the group. it was widely reported a couple of months ago. returned recently when the gang agreed to cut an additional 100-plus billion dollars from entitlement health care programs. and are you rock solid behind this new plan? >> you know, i'm rock solid behind my plan. my plan isn't going to happen. so i'm rock solid behind the plan that gets us on the way and this one does. >> your plan being the $9 trillion? >> yeah. >> the whole thing, it appears to be dependent upon rewriting the tax code. so how do we do that? how do we make all these other changes? how do we avert this, you no kn potential default in 13 days and h
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